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It automatically segments out notable climbs on the route and displays them as a data screen on the hike. In ClimbPro you get the climb number, distance to go, ascent to go, average gradient, and a bottom field that you can customize on the screen shot above its vertical speed. When you are not on a climb you get to see the next climb and how far away it is. The Fenix 6 offers altitude and heat acclimation features are mainly geared toward runners and cyclists, with the training status and VO2 Max getting updated based on your acclimation results.
From there you get an alert and info in your training status on your acclimatization status. How useful is this to me as a hiker? Not much. As someone who hikes a lot, I generally use the altimeter the most.
Some highlights include:. Like almost every other GPS in the world, these sensors are decent but not the same as a professional instrument. There are a ton of other features in the Fenix 6 but not all of them lived up to their expectations. Here are some other notable features worth mentioning. Some of them might be handy for you outside of hiking and the outdoors. I also came with an orange silicone band in the box.
There are also different band options available. The notched bands are the easiest to deal with but the titanium and carbon bands are nice if you need something a little fancier. The fixed bands need to be taken to a jeweler to be sized correctly. Each model has its own band size:. Have an idea on how to make these guides better?
Leave me your thoughts here. Click Here To View. FIT file using the nifty app time splicer they have. Here it is on Zwift:. The part that most people here reading about are probably interested in though is Garmin watch integration. Technically speaking, any manufacturer could integrate these, but only Garmin has selected to do so.
For example, most Garmin watches will automatically show the Running Dynamics pages when a capable Running Dynamics sensor is paired. These are what those pages look like:. Those metrics will update constantly throughout the run, just like any other metric. Respiration rate comes from the chest strap too:. Whether or not you find value in the Running Dynamics metrics is up to you. My coach finds some value in a handful of the metrics in terms of seeing some impacts of fatigue in a longer run.
While the strap also includes the cadence data, that actually comes from your watch anyway or a footpod, if you have one of those.
Next, switching gears away from running, over to swimming, which is the secondary main reason someone might pick up the HRM-PRO. Once in, simply swim as normal. Digital signals only go about an inch a few centimeters underwater, so from your chest to your wrist is way to far. But Polar stopped making any modern watches that support that.
This usually takes seconds. Now, while I talked about swimming here, this same thing applies to really any sport. It knows to do that. Ultimately, all of this offloading and running dynamics functionality is exactly the same as it was on the HRM-TRI, the only difference here is that this strap also has Bluetooth as well as the daily metric offloading too for non-watch workouts.
For the most part, chest straps are a pretty well defined thing these days, where failures are rarely in the actual capturing of data, and usually more tied to transmission or connectivity pieces. There are exceptions to that, notably in cooler weather when the skin is drier and contact is trickier. Usually once you get into the workout then sweat takes over. Ok, so in my testing, I simply use the strap throughout my usual workouts. Those workouts include a wide variety of intensities and conditions, making them great for accuracy testing.
Note all this data is analyzed using the DCR Analyzer, details here. This is a 9-mile long run from a few weeks ago, just cruising along at a relatively easy pace. The Whoop strap is…well…the Whoop strap, bouncing all over the place. We find ourselves now on the track. In this case, again, we see it pretty much perfect even from the optical HR sensor of the FR As is often the case with intervals and optical HR sensors, you see a very tiny bit of lag on recovery compared to chest straps.
I suspect that might actually just be something with adjusting it more than anything else, given it happened in the first few seconds and went away. No unexpected spikes or dropouts or anything else funky. You can use it as well for your own gadget comparisons, more details here.
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Thanks for showing it! We got it for my kids two years ago and they love it. Hi DC, as a young triathlete 16 I have a few questions, firstly I cannot afford the higherend Garmin watches that said I am wanting to get into the garmin ecosystem, I plan on getting the fr35 and Hrm pro but i do not know if these are compatible.
Secondly is it safe to use the fr35 for surface saltwater open water swimming, and lastly. As usual, great detailed review. What features are supported with older Garmin watch i. I would love to get Running Dynamics data somehow and I am resigned to buying a new watch at some point.
From the FR, your most logical jump is the FR Thanks for the review, Ray. Detailed as always. Every single one failed after I changed the battery. Not possible to repair. Such a waste. Pity, because they are otherwise extremely accurate, producing helpful data. I had hoped Garmin would fix that design issue, but here we go again. Using the Tickr X now, but spikes and dropouts are the order of the day.
I never really got any value from the dynamics so I wear either the dual or my scosche depending on what I can find at that moment. And another here with HRM-run. Had 2 fail already. First one after 15 months, second after 7 months. The second strap went about 4 weeks after. Note that I was meticulous with the change and reseal of the second strap. Also have a clubmate that had same thing happen after his first change.
And contemplating reverting to an dumb old one for cycling. All of those failures were within the first year so Garmin warrantied each one. I pass through 3 HRM-Tri, loved the accuracy but same issue with leaking and dead quickly. I was looking forward new version but unfortunately the case looks exactly same. I am also keep using Tickr X until Garmin release a better version. Both have issues locking in on an HR, both of them have flat lines for mins throughout an activity multiple times.
The Polar OH1 is the only device that has survived multi-year use. Think I will continue using that for indoor stuff, and may consider the TRI for outdoor runs and rides. When changing battery, you must do a new search for HR sensors. The watch will not find the HRM-run or —tri even if the same sensor is stored on your device. The same thing applies with Edge cycling computers. So deleate the stored HR sensor when changing battery, do a new search, and it will probably be good!
I have also experienced that. Afrer a hard run, I put the wet belt in my bag and pedaled very easy home. When uploading the ride, it is in the red sone all the way, with a new max heart rate almost bpm over my correct max. With other belts I just disconnect one of the contacts between sensor and belt. Yes, that is my major problem with the design. I also do not have an issue with re-pairing it…its simply that after a battery swap the sensor basically starts going through batteries every couple of weeks as if it never turns off.
The advantage of the integrated design is that you have to buy the whole thing instead of just buying a replacement strap and keeping the pod.
You meant advantages for the consumer and not Garmin? I agree Garmin should fix the design issue. I had same issue, I do not recommend HRM due battery issues and limited product life use. All fresh batteries are about the same for me BTW. For those that have had failures, did it seem like the gasket around the battery was out of place or damaged? There is usually one random screw that apparently backs out slightly by the time the fourth one is in. I purchased the first two and Garmin replaced for me on 3 and 4; I thought it was my fault the fist time, then I research and saw lots of people with the issue.
And my many years old backup Garmin Premium strap just keeps working, battery replacement after battery replacement. I am very late to the party here, but hopefully this helps someone who stumbles across this thread researching garmin issues. It is not actually the red gasket which fails, it is a flaw in the design which results in the top RH side of the pod cracking and letting in sweat.
Note the similar type of crack compared to my attached image the background is similar, but they are different units. Have people seen the same death rate with the Pro? Not taking away from that, just noting it. Not to mention the design with the little screws which become stripped or crack the case.
The reason is because we only see unit counts, but not total sales. We do know that Garmen sells exponentially more straps than Wahoo to use your example , as in, not even in the same ballpark. Or not. But the challenge is more specific than that.
As much as a few people might dislike the concept of it, a lot of people like that pod design. Specifically women, as it tends to reduce the scratching and chest cutting that can often happen in a TICKR-like design, where two pieces come together. We saw them constantly tweak the Vector pedal design to eventually eliminate design issues. Now, a valid question is whether the trade-offs of a built-in pod outweigh the concerns of a built-in pod. As noted, there are good reasons to have it from a waterproofing standpoint.
In fact, if one remembers to the days that Polar sold the coded T31 straps designed for swim use — they too had built-in pods to the transmitter side.
Ray, thanks for taking the time to reply with your thoughts and analysis. Perhaps they have even calculated that the customers will still keep buying Garmin for reasons of integration they are still the only company with Running Dynamics, right? Prior HRM-Tri lasted through five battery changes before cracking the backplate at the lower right screw point.
I had hopes that the rubber bumper would seal things well enough to use out of the pool, but no such luck. Battery had a parent-child logo on it but did not taste bitter. Being aware of the history of faults with the older model I did treat the pod gently with light pressure applied to the center of the faceplate and no downward pressure applied to the screws at all.
Let the threads do the work and halted at the point any resistance at all was apparent. So far so good. The cover plate is not reversible — there is an up and downside. Would you get HR consolidation of an activity with a watch for an activity such as strength training. Would the watch download that heart rate data into the workout file once I returned to the instinct and save the activity? But, you would get the HR data to your Garmin Connect account just not in that workout file.
Is there a list of Garmin devices that support offline caching? Thinking about getting Vivoactive 4 or new Venu. Would you recommend the strap for sleep metrics? Would it record it as sleep metrics and would it be more comfortable to sleep with than the Fenix? Technically yup. I did exactly that for hours today at the office, not wearing a Garmin watch.
Side-sleepers may not get data worth the battery drain wearing HRM over night. Moving the OHR watch to the ankle works if the sleeper is idle enough to keep the sensor pointed in the correct location.
I suspect that means some of the feature dependencies from HRV-driven applications. Lactate threshold is one. If I wear a Fenix6 and a HRM-Pro at the same time, both of them are recording daily activity steps, heart rate, stress, floors? How to set the priority for the data? After all, the data on the heart rate from the belt will be much more accurate. My understanding is priority is for the watch for activity tracking data.
Will it defer to the HRM-Pro for both? So for example, as a quick test I just wore the HR strap while doing some clean-up around the office. I went about my business and came back 5 mins later and saved the activity. It then goes through the same routine as swimming in terms of finding the strap, downloading the data, and saving it as part of the workout as if it was connected the entire time.
I already have a Running Dynamics Pod paired with a Fenix 6 PRO, but I would like to be able to track track my cycling cadence as I have a stationary bike desk that I often use while working in my office. I have this exact same issue with the HRM-RUN strap, it smells absolutely awful after couple of years of use even though washed regularly and nowadays after every run.
Was really hoping this new one could have been washed in the washing machine. When were they released? Planned obsolescence and money grab in my opinion and why I skipped the Tri and dual upgrades and have a Swim which only gets used in the pool to prolong the life …. That is a shame! They have both cadence and stride length, so pace is a simple calc… Looks like the TickrX gets the nod due to the zwift compatility. Was hoping the updated strap would have some more features, but a worthy upgrade in any case.
Did you have any issues with battery life drain from the bluetooth connectivity? With the HRM dual I always remove the piece from the strap, else something like my ipad will connect to it and drain the battery. Since this has bluetooth, I am wondering if that could be a problem since the computer is not removable.
At least upon getting a strap I noticed the cadence data instantly improve — no obvious drop outs as the watch is prone to plus much cleaner over all. I think the HRM-Tri was officially listed at the same, but did anyone really pay that?
I think it was always on sale somewhere for significantly less. Thank you for the excellent review, as always! Not horrible. Maybe even one that supports the newer recovery advisor that takes stress into account. Also if the Garmin strap ever wears out — I have a couple of Polar straps that wore out and being able to snap the unit out of the strap was really nice. Is this a heavy-duty unit?
Honestly not sure. Heck, I would have thought this strap would have come out a long-long time ago, so no idea on how a HRM-RUN v2 might if ever manifest itself. That would be really useful for activities where the chest strap is bothering you. I suspect Running Dynamics might be challenging on a bicep from a balance standpoint…but, maybe not.
In my example of wearing this strap during the day when I am doing some some part time manual labour work and do not want to wear my FR, would I have to start an activity on the watch to get the HR, steps, etc.
I think you missed the question Ray, Pavel was talking about the yellow, blue, red rubber bit which are swappable you even have a picture of it removed! I assume the pod is still the same size as before. Having also original Ticker that lasted 2 years an failed me only one but in the middle of half-IM race and now I hope Polar H10 Pro will last at least the year or two and prove to be reliable.
Correct, it does take up one of the BT channels. Nah, not at all required. Hi, I have two questions. It is good that HRM can finally record the steps. Thank you. So, to add another quick office test. Next, I meandered outside and back. Once I got back and it synced the strap, both the steps and my distance within GCM had increased to about the right amounts. Ray, there is an important caveat here regarding 2.
I wanted HR and distance data for those games. I thought it would use my stride length to estimate a distance based on the recorded steps, alas it does not confirmed this with Garmin support on the phone.
I can see the HR data and cadence data graphs in the Garmin Connect activity, but derived data such as distance and speed would have been much more powerful.
Hopefully they will be able and willing to remedy this through software. I do not understand why they choose this solution, had I used my old Forerunner and my footpod and pretended it was a threadmill run, I would have gotten exactly what I wanted in that respect obv.
The HR images are just thumbnails when I click on them to take a closer look. The labels are really hard to read. I really wish they would go to a form factor with a replaceable strap. Polar European says maximum cm for the H Basically I would like to wear my HRM and receive the dynamics while training in a threadmilll. I think many users continue to have issues with the little red gasket. Would really like to find where these can be acquired, or something to take its place.
Would be great to change that along with the battery at each battery change. After several battery changes they seem to go dry on my end and eventually water will find its way in HRM-Tri user here. Hey Ray, Always love the reviews.. As a person who is interested in running dynamics, but not having a watch that supports it, am I still out of luck? I would say the same for swimming heart rate, since my watch does not support it.
Does the offline data recording also translate to updated first beat metrics like body battery? Hey Ray, Is this something you could just do a quick test with?
I would suspect Garmin would say the time has passed for footpods, at least in any mainstream market way anyway. Great review, thank you! Is it compatible with the Vivoactive 4, for example? I would like to see HR from the X22i while running.
I ordered the Pro and will try it and see if it works. If anything, I can use it for Zwift. Hopefully one of these days Nordictrack will allow their machines to work with Garmin or Strava directly like the Peloton Treads do. Got live HR on both the watch and the trademill no issues with BT connection. Running dynamics look good, no issues. It works. I will test Zwift later this week.
I assume this means that I could sleep with this strap on and get my resting HR? If I was geeky enough to wear it all day at work, which as a Science teacher I certainly am! What if I switch hands to push, and the watch records some steps, but not all? So I need the electrical beat detection which is more accurate. It would be nice if I could see the real time beats per minute on my watch. Is it supported by Samsung Health App?
I now use this to sync sensors when Strava stopped sensor support. Do you only need to remove 2 of the 4 to change the battery? Thanks, loose screws fixed.
As for the FR, nope, that is actually the FR Albeit, not new. Also, it seems that HRM technology has gone backwards over the years. I had a Polar strap from 20 years ago that was completely sealed and rechargeable and also transmitted real time HR in the water with no problem.
Or best to buy HRM pro separate from the edge? Hope that makes sense. I use it and find it most useful on windy days, to compare my efforts into the wind compared to when it is at my back. It uses the grade, speed, wind speed and direction and vertical ratio. Here is the official Garmin page describing all of the running dynamics: link to discover. Rugby League. BBL W. Big Bash League Cricket.
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